Tuesday, January 6, 2009

Israel, Gaza si lumea ...

The video Hamas Dont Want You to See
the UN School bombing

Joint press conference with FM Livni and EU representatives
cine vrea, poate urmari conferinta pe video.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Rush Limbaugh

vics said...

"After ten days of Israeli offensive operations in the Gaza Strip, Hamas' command and control appears to be in disarray, Palestinian analysts told the Jerusalem Post.

Hamas leaders are in hiding, and conflicting messages are being put out by Hamas's leadership under Khalid Mashal, who is based in Damascus, and Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas leader in Gaza..."

vics said...

Doua alte articole interesante, despre shiftul fatza de Israel, a pozitiei Egypt si Turcia (Jan 6, 2009)

during a conversation with an EU delegation which went to the Middle East in order to come up with some kind of compromise regarding the Israel-Hamas crisis,
Mubarak told the EU delegation that Hamas cannot be allowed to win. He told the delegation that he had proposed a ceasefire agreement to both sides, which would require Israel to withdraw from Gaza and to break up its blockade while Hamas would have to agree to stop firing rockets at Israel...

Although Jerusalem was shocked by
Erdogan’s comments, Israeli officials say they do not want to jump to conclusions (about what the remarks mean for the strategic alliance between Turkey and Israel). They first want the IDF to end operation Cast Lead in Gaza after which they will review the damage caused to the relationship.

vics said...

Cel care a postat video cu scoala UN din Gaza, pe youTube, a scris urmatoarele:

"Today's (Jan-06-08) outrage about the shells landing outside UN school buildings needs a little context added to it. Because the outraged retards repeating it seem to have a very short memory. So therefore I'll repost this video from IDF.
You know, the one that the Hamas supporters tried to take down from Youtube because it just ruins the helpless innocent Palestinian narrative."

Roy said...

Israelul a inceput sa imparta imaginile activitatzii teroriste in scoala respectiva peste tot.

Referitor la initziativele de "pace" ale lui Mubarak, este absolut un absurd ca Egiptul, unul din vinovatzii actualului razboi, cel care a inchis ochii si a permis strecurarea rachetelor in Gaza prin tunele - acest Egipt este cel care astazi condamna Israelul si face propuneri de pace - pentru ca mai tarziu sa nu le respecte.

Deasemeni, e bine de stiu ca checkpointul de la Rafiah dintre Gaza si Egipt (care va face si el parte dintr-un viitor acord) a fost deschis o data si controlat cu chiu cu vai de europeni (era un fel de pseudocontrol, cam ca cel in stil european intre membrele UE), care europeni, la prima impuscatura a Hamasului s-au raspandit ca potarnichiile, luaind-o la goana spre Israel.

Anonymous said...

Global obsession with Jews?

vics said...

Wow !!!, stiati de asta ?
chiar asa a fost ?

Roy said...

Nu prea e clar ce a fost. Rice a declarat ca votarea ei nu a fost influentzata de Bush; Tzipi Livni a spus ca Rice ar fi anuntzat-o dinainte ca se va abtzine.

In tot cazul, Olmert a fost un mojic, lucruri din astea nu se dezvaluie decat in autobiografii scrise dupa zeci de ani.

vics said...

de acord cu tine, a fost mojic ...

ia spune, esti de acord cu aceasta interpretare ?

Roy said...

1. De ramas in Gaza, nu vom ramane.

2. Israelul nu cauta sa-si arate victoria, victoria este cat se poate de clara oricat ar vorbi Hamasul din bunker.

3. Problema principala sunt tunelele. Egiptul este una din cauzele razboiului. Tot armamentul a venit prin Sinai si tunele iar Egiptul a inchis ochii in mod voit.

Ba, chiar Ministrul de Externe egiptean spune fara rusine ca armamentul a venit pe cale marina, cand se stie ca nici macar o barca de pescari nu poate intra sau iesi din Gaza fara aprobarea armatei.

Atat timp cat tunelele nu vor fi sub control international, adica partea egipteana supravegheata, inarmarea va continua si mai devreme sau mai tarziu vom asista la o noua runda.

Eu sunt foarte sceptic in ce priveste rezolvarea problemei, europenii si americanii sunt interesatzi de rezolvarea momentana a situatziei si nu se gandesc ce va fi peste 2-3 ani.

Vezi incetarea focului in Liban, croita de Condolissa Rice + Tzipi Livni, care a dat de fapt libertate completa lui Hizballah sa se inarmeze cu de 3 ori mai multe rachete decat avea inainte de razboi.

Aceasta politica de a rezolva probleme temporar, creind in acelasi timp viitoare probleme la un nivel si mai grav, va continua si mai mult sub Obama.

In concluzie, eu cred ca in cateva zile sau saptamani armata se va retrage din Gaza, fara a obtzine un mecanism suficient de "uscare" a surselor Hamas (adica tunelele) si singura realizare este ca Hamasul (asemanator lui Hizballah) va stie de frica, pana va veni o anumita conjunctura cand se va hotara sa atace din nou, data viitoare cu rachete care vor ajunge pana in regiunea de centru (regiunea Tel-Avivului).

vics said...

INDIA’s Israel Envy
By Shashi Tharoor, Jan.13, 2009

NEW DELHI: As Israeli planes and tanks exact a heavy toll on Gaza, India’s leaders and strategic thinkers have been watching with an unusual degree of interest – and some empathy.

India’s government has, no surprise, joined the rest of the world in calling for an end to the military action, but its criticism of Israel has been muted.
...
many in India, still smarting from the horrors of the Mumbai attacks in November, have been asking:
why can’t we do the same?